Are you comfortable fully aligning yourself to an Israeli government that has people like Ben Gavir and Smodriidge who to put it bluntly I view as psychopaths? So let’s remember uh Israel is an ally of the UK.
There will be all sorts of people who will be in any foreign government uh is Israel or elsewhere that I might not be comfortable with might dislike their views.
But when I was trade secretary, I saw how Israeli intelligence helped protect British citizens and this country.
Uh they are fighting a lot of battles which are really fights for western values.
Do you feel comfortable about the scale of the response in say Gaza and now in Lebanon for the scale of civilian people? Um it’s so I disagree when people call it a genocide.
It’s a war.
Uh all death you know is something which I think should be avoided.
I think Israel actually takes care to try and target the specific people.
They’re killing a lot of civilians in the process because Hamas uses the civilians as human.
Is that a good enough excuse eventually if it looks like eventually we hear from Ben and Sodri what they really want to do is kick all the Palestinians out of Gaza? I don’t I don’t know him and I don’t know what he said so I can’t comment on that.
I do think it is wrong that Hamas uses innocent civilians uh as human shields.
That is what has caused a lot of the uh the scale of the violence.
I absolutely love Cammy Badano.
She doesn’t deal with the of Pierce.
How you doing? This is Sahar TV and in today’s video we will see Cammy Badanok on the Pierce Morgan Uncensored show talking about free speech in the UK and the treatment of Jews in the UK.
Have a look.
I believe in free speech but I am concerned about the free speech of people in this country.
I don’t think that we are giving international rights for people to come to our country to exercise.
We’ve been jailing people for example for Facebook posts and so on.
Do you agree with that? So people should not be in my view jailed for Facebook post unless they are breaking the law very clearly.
Um I am someone who believes in free speech but free speech has its limits.
You can’t defame people.
You can’t incite violence or hatred.
But I have also been very vocal about what is happening to British Jews in our country.
There’s clearly been a climate of intimidation uh and incitement of violence happening with a lot of those protests.
I think that’s the sort of place where you draw the line that yes, have free speech, but you don’t use it to hurt other people.
Your rights stop when someone else’s rights uh begin.
Uh so if they if you know when I’m prime minister, I want to be able to stop bad people from coming to our country.
I don’t know the reasons that Labour gives to the people that it does stop.
But that right to stop uh people who are not conducive to the public good from coming to the country, I think is an important one for a government to exercise.
Are you comfortable fully aligning yourself to an Israeli government that has people like Ben Gavir and Smodriidge who to put it bluntly I view as psychopaths? So I am aligning myself with Jewish people in our country.
I don’t align myself particular.
Yeah.
Well well yes, but where did you Well, if you were prime minister of this country, you would have to make public statements about the Israeli government.
given the way that certain members of that government behave now or what we see with our own eyes, uh would you be comfortable fully supporting that government? So, let’s remember uh Israel is an ally of the UK.
There will be all sorts of people who will be in any foreign government uh is Israel or elsewhere that I might not be comfortable with, might dislike their views, but when I was trade secretary, I saw how Israeli intelligence helped protect British citizens and this country.
uh they are fighting a lot of battles which are really fights for western values and I think that when you look at what happened on October 7th the massacre that happened really horrific stuff which I even find uncomfortable thinking about knowing what I’ve read about what I saw that I understand why they are in a fight for for their survival uh if there are specific do you feel comfortable about the scale of the response in say Gaza and now in Lebanon are you are you comfortable about that so I know that mistakes have been made, but I can also see that Israel takes uh actually quite a lot of care people.
Um it’s so I disagree when people call it a genocide.
It’s a war.
Uh all death, you know, is something which I think should be avoided.
I think Israel actually takes care to try and target the specific people.
Uh but they’re killing a lot of civilians in the process because Hamas uses the civilians as human.
Is that a good enough excuse eventually if it looks like eventually we hear from Bengavir and Smadriich what they really want to do is kick all the Palestinians out of Gaza? I don’t I don’t know him and I don’t know what he said so I can’t comment on that.
I do think it is wrong that Hamas uses innocent civilians uh as human shields.
That is what has caused a lot of the uh the scale of the violence.
I absolutely love Cammy Baronok.
She doesn’t deal with the of Pierce.
She she just doesn’t Of course civilians are going to die if they hide behind them.
Of course, civilians are going to die if they tell them, “Hey, the tunnels are for the terrorists.
You guys can stay outside and suffer.
” Of course, people are going to die.
And I think the response of Israel was kind of weak.
We should have responded a lot harder.
We should have eradicated Hamas fully.
Not the way it is right now.
You look at what they did with Hezbollah and the pages.
You look at uh the very precise targeting in Iran.
I believe uh the Israeli government when they say they do everything they can to minimize human life.
Hamas does not do that.
And even Palestinians will say that Hamas is the biggest oppressor of Palestinian people.
Uh getting rid of Hamas I think is important.
It is a terrorist group.
Uh that’s the issue I think with um the the guest on your show.
Um I’m sorry I’ve forgotten his name.
He has said that he prefers Yeah, he has said that he prefers Hamas to Israel.
Hamas is a terrorist group.
He’s No, he’s always condemned Hamas to me.
But um um I was told that he had said that and I just don’t want people who support terrorist groups coming to our country.
Yeah.
He’s not a Hamas supporter.
That’s that would be a mischaracterization.
Two quick things before we be a wrap up.
It’s been very interesting talking to you.
Um don’t leave us along next time.
Okay.
Um what one is your faith which I find really interesting because you were very open about this uh recently in an interview uh with Amar Rajan.
You said that you lost your personal belief in God after reading about the Joseph Fritzell case where this Austrian monster had imprisoned and abused his daughter for 24 years.
She’d had to have seven children by him and it was a despicable awful story.
And so you had lost your belief in God but now identified as a cultural Christian and people were a little bit confused about that as you know and debated it a lot.
You happen to be married to a practicing Catholic.
Goes to church every Sunday.
He does.
Right.
And I believe your kids are all being raised.
Yes, they’re all Catholic.
Yes.
And they go to church every Sunday.
So, what do you what do you do? What is a cultural Christian? Um I I go to church sometimes, but not very often.
But remember, I was um I’m the granddaughter of a Methodist Reverend.
Um so, I grew up in a Christian family.
Uh my my grandmother, I tell people, my grandmother was born a Muslim.
She actually converted um to Christianity after she believed she’d witnessed a miracle.
Um I grew up in a very Christian family and it’s in Nigeria.
Yes.
Yes.
In Nigeria.
My childhood.
You were born here.
Your mother went back.
Yes.
I was born in London but um uh my childhood was spent in Nigeria and it’s literal there.
The Bible is a living word of God.
So when I say I lost my faith, it was believing that every single thing in the Bible was true.
Because if every single thing in the Bible was true, I don’t think what happened to uh Elizabeth Fritzell.
Well, I think you made the point that you made little prayers to God which God answered about exams and so on.
But she had clearly prayed every day to be released from this horror.
Yes.
And had never been released.
And you were making the point how can how can a just god allow this? This is basically that why why were my prayers um answered but not her prayers? But I am still a cultural Christian because do you pray No, but when I say I’m a cultural Christian, that means that the culture of Christianity is one which I think is a force for good.
I think churches are a good thing.
I think that uh the the work ethic, the Protestant work ethic, which is um what what Methodists um are are are often most most seen about is very important.
I think the Christian values, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, truthtelling, all of those things I think are important and I think that they are very much part of the culture of this country.
I think that this is a Christian c country, I don’t want to see Christianity disappear.
And so even though I might not believe um in every single thing that is in the Bible, overall I think that Christianity is a force for good and I will fight for it.
Do you think you might rekindle your belief in God given that your the rest of your immediate family are pretty devout by the sound of faith? I don’t think faith works like that.
I don’t think faith works like that.
Well, I know it does.
Really? Absolutely.
I’ve heard people who renounce their faith and then something happens and they get it back.
I might need to see the kind of miracle my grandmother um saw.
Yeah.
Do you think anything would persuade you? But but um some sometimes I look at I look at how lucky I have been personally and uh you know the role that I’m in you know 10 years ago I was not even a member of parliament now I’m leading the conservative party and you you know once in a while you can think is there someone who is or is there a beam that is is directing these things those thoughts do cross your mind so I don’t describe myself as an atheist I describe myself as agnostic maybe there is a god maybe there isn’t but I will try and live my life according to certain values values which are Christian values but I’m not going to use the Bible as a textbook uh for how to be in government or what rules and regulations should should come in and I think that most people in the separation of church and state that’s why a lot of western civilizations are thriving right now because they chose to separate between church and state in that um in that space that there is uh a cultural Christianity go to church uh you know not just for weddings and um and funerals you Christmas and Easter when something momentous is happening and I am bringing my children up in that but I also I I I believe in being honest and I cannot pretend that I believe in God when I don’t believe um in God when I am agnostic about his existence.
I am somebody who you know even when it’s painful I will tell the truth.
If I’m telling you something you know that what I say I mean I think that that’s really important in politicians.
People are so disillusioned by politicians saying things so that they can get votes.
So, I’m not going to tell people that I believe in something just to get their votes.
I want them to know what I do believe.
So, I’m a cultural Christian.
I believe in culture a lot.
I think we talk a lot about values, but not enough about culture.
And I think we have a great culture in this country.
We’re at risk of losing it if we don’t preserve it.
So, I fight for churches.
I want to see them fixed.
You know, I want more money going into preserving churches, which are actually often a repository of the history of every village.
Um, especially in the countryside and in rural areas.
They tell a story about who we are and and you know maybe where we’re going.
There are people like Tommy Robinson who spend their time on the airways in America saying Britain is lost, London is lost.
We’ve been overrun by Muslims.
Uh and there’s no hope for us.
So we are our people.
A country is its people.
We are not lost.
Um we are not broken.
But there are certainly some things which are broken or breaking.
I think our immigration system has broken.
That’s why I want us to leave the convention on human rights.
It doesn’t work.
Uh I think there are a lot of nice ideas we have which are being naive people.
I just want to say before she continues, I think she’s a brilliant, brilliant uh leader.
I think Cammy Badanok is a badass.
She really knows how to communicate.
She knows how to stand up for the right things.
I mean, take a look at this brilliant conversation.
Brilliant conversation.
Nothing rattles her.
If I were you in the UK, I would probably vote for her, right? She seems like she’s the most balanced.
She’s awesome.
Love her.
Who convert um asylum seekers to Christianity and then they go on and become an imam afterwards or start visiting the mosque.
Uh people who convert uh men who claim to be gay and then when they get their settle status they get married and have children.
I think that we’ve been very naive.
Um I’m not a supporter of Tommy Robinson.
I think he said a lot of um unsavory things.
Um, you know, he’s gotten into trouble for contempt of court, but he is tapping into a sentiment that clearly thousands of people do share about their concerns about us losing our culture.
I’m also concerned about us losing our culture.
I think that Britain is a beacon to the rest of the world.
The reason why people come here is because of British culture and British values.
So, we have to fight for them.
Cammy Baden, ladies and gentlemen, what a brilliant speaker.
Fight for your culture.
It’s not too late.
You can still reverse things.
And me personally, I don’t think Tommy Robinson said some extreme things and that he has like a a court order or contempt of court.
At the end of the day, these are the types of people needed to make you move and act and protest and be an activist.
If he would have just told you everything in such a, you know, peaceful manner, you know, ah, maybe, maybe not, you wouldn’t do anything anything.
So, I am I’m a big supporter of Tommy Robinson.
I’m a big supporter of Cammy Badanok.
Absolutely brilliant conversation and I really hope that she’s going to be the one leading the UK, not Kier Starmer.
And if it’s not going to be her, then hopefully it’s going to be Rupert Low, because incredibly strict policies need to be put in place so we don’t get the same situation as Henry Noak with the death of Henry Noak and the grooming gangs and all of these things.
These people need to be in charge.
Not Kier Starmer, not the Labor government.
Let’s make this change happen.
Be brave of who you are.
Vote for your culture.
Preserve your culture because that’s what makes Britain to be so special in the eyes of the world.
Thank you so much for watching this video.
I’ll see you in the next one.
And I’ll include the full Piers Morgan episode in the link below.
Bye-bye.
If you’d like to watch more of my stuff, please check out my channel down below.
If you like what you see, don’t forget to subscribe to the YouTube channel and hit that notification button so you can be notified every time I upload new content.
If you’d like to support me and the channel financially, you can do that using Buy Me Coffee or Patreon down in the links below.
