was a bunch of extremist terrorists who happen to be Muslim committing terrorism.
When you basically at a crowd with a loud haler in your mouth, embrace every single Muslim in the country and say you’re all to blame.
That is Islamophobic, isn’t it? I mean, it has to be.
Since 9/11 alone, there have been 46,000 plus terror attacks by Islamic terrorists.
That is an absolute fact.
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I want to start just by what Medi Hassan told me about Islamophobia because I don’t want to put words in your mouth but I think you’re kind of the view it doesn’t really exist and that you you shouldn’t be silenced from criticizing Islam by people shouting you’re Islamophobic.
Now Medi Hassan and I s subscribe to this as well.
I think if you if you launch the kind of ferocious, relentless attacks as someone like Tommy Robinson has done on Islam and Muslims in the way that he’s done so many times, it’s eventually pretty painfully obvious to people that you’re coming at this from a bigoted position.
And therefore by the by the dictionary definition of Islamophobia if it comes from a place of hate that actually is Islamophobia isn’t it? Thank you so much for having me back Pierce.
Uh it the devil is in the details right? So if I were to say that Jews are inherently diseased, they are degenerates.
They are evil.
They’re parasites.
That would be anti-semitic.
If I say there are teachings in the Torah that are abhorrent given today’s moral codes, that wouldn’t be anti-Semitic.
So if you were to make dispositional statements about individual Muslims, that would be Muslim bigotry.
But if you say anything you want about the codified content of Islam, then by definition, that cannot be Islamophobic.
Okay? Okay.
So, let me play you a little mashup of examples I would say where Tommy Robinson has displayed Islamophobia by the criteria in the dictionary.
Let’s take a look.
We will unify every community against the hostility and barbarianism of Islam.
I’m not racist.
I despise racism.
Islam is not a race.
Islam is a fascist violent ideology which masquerades as a religion.
Every single Muslim watching this video on YouTube on 77, you got away with killing and maming British citizens.
We embrace migrants that come to this country and love it.
The problem is Islamic migrants come to this country and declare war on.
Now when you hear all that and in particular it felt to me that what he said about 77 which was a bunch of extremist terrorists who happen to be Muslim committing terrorism when you basically you know at a crowd with a loud hailer in your mouth embrace every single Muslim in the country and say you’re all to blame for killing and maming Brit that is Islamophobic isn’t it? I mean it has to be otherwise what let me yes let me let me address this in using two examples.
The number one predictor of child abuse is if there is a stepparent in the house.
It is 100 times greater predictor than all other predictors.
And yet most stepparents are perfectly lovely and kind and don’t commit abuse.
So understanding statistical reasoning and causal inferencing is important.
So let me give a second example.
Since 911 alone, there have been 46,000 plus terror attacks committed in roughly 70 countries by Islamic terrorists.
That is an absolute fact.
Notwithstanding the f the the fact that out of two billion Muslims, most did not commit terrorist acts.
So we can point to 77 and say that that was driven by Islamic ideology while also speaking from the other side of my our mouths that most Muslims that we’ll ever meet are peaceful.
Both of those two statements are true.
But what what the peaceful Muslims would say uh is that actually it’s the twisting of the Islam ideology by extremists that is the problem.
It’s not a genuine interpretation of Islam because the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.
So they say that true.
Well, is it not true? If that wasn’t true, then if that wasn’t true, they wouldn’t de facto most Muslims commit acts of terrorism.
Most Jews eat proh and also eat shrimps.
But they’re not practicing a more gentle form of kosher law.
They simply ignore the fact that kosher laws dictate that you don’t eat shrimps and that you don’t eat proushut.
Right? I eat proch.
I’m Jewish.
I’m not practicing a more peaceful version of Judaism.
I just ignore that which I don’t wish to apply.
Most Muslims don’t commit those acts because they are kind and decent people who choose to ignore whichever they don’t wish to follow in their texts.
But does Islam contain endless quotes, endless edicts that are profoundly problematic to the kufur? The answer is a resounding yes.
Does the Bible do that? Yeah, of course the Bible does does that.
But so the same so your same your same you would have the same view of Christianity for example, would you? Right.
Well, if if Christians were going around right now quoting passages from the New Testament and committing 46,000 plus terror attacks in nearly 70 countries since 9/11 alone, then I would say we need to worry about those texts.
If they were Talmudic extreme extre extremists doing that, then we would worry about that.
Look, Deuteronomy has a lot of nasty things.
Find the Almakites and kill them.
But I don’t know many guys called Morcai Rubenstein looking for mal malachites to kill them.
So you know common sense matters right? Most Muslims are lovely.
I know more Muslims than most people will ever meet in their lives.
None of them have ever been terrorists.
This doesn’t take away from the fact that there is a astounding problem with Islamic terrorism.
Both those statements are true.
It is.
But I would say that to give you two parallels, very different things.
One, as somebody put to me on X today, you know, during the years when the IRA were committing appalling acts of terrorism, it would be like saying, well, then all, you know, according to Tommy Robinson, his logic would say all Irish people are to blame for the maming and killing, right? Which is clearly would have been outrageous thing to say.
Secondly, and I raised this with with someone Masho who was insens that I would even draw this parallel, but I said why not? If you look at the number of mass shootings in America in the last 30 years, they’re almost exclusively perpetrated by deranged young white men.
So, does that mean that we should by the same logic say, well, there’s all these terrible mass shootings going on.
They’re all being committed by the same type of profile of person.
Therefore, all young white men in America have to be treated with deep suspicion, which is what Tommy Robinson would.
That’s where his logic takes you.
That’s why I have a problem with the Tommy Robinsons of this world.
It’s not his message and banging the drum about the rape gang scandal.
He’s been absolutely right about that.
It’s just he’s such a flawed messenger for all sorts of other reasons.
And the reason that’s problematic is because he gets used by people who are trying to avoid accountability because they say, “Well, look at this guy, the one who’s shouting loudest about us.
Look at him.
He’s a convicted football thug.
He beats up policeman and gets convicted for it.
He’s a mortgage fraudster.
He’s a passport faker.
He’s committed contempt of court three times.
He’s nearly wrecked trials involving the the rape gang scandals.
He’s he’s made a Syrian refugee boy’s life utter hell with his lies.
that’s why he’s now in prison and so on.
In other words, by demonizing the messenger, those who should be held to account are able to hide behind Tommy Robinson being the flag bearer for all this.
I think that is a problem.
Look, Tommy Robinson has some uh some issues in his past.
I don’t know all of them, although I’ve had a chance to have long conversations with him.
He’s even come to visit me in Montreal.
He never in my presence said anything that struck me as bigoted or racist.
So, I’m I’m not here to defend Tommy Robinson.
Uh Christopher Hitchens, whom I’m sure you know well.
He’s a compatriate British Excuse me.
I employed him when I was editor of the Daily Mirror.
And you know, when I know what you’re about to say to me about what he said about his phobia before you say it, and you’re right to say it, I would point out I hired him during the Iraq war because he supported that war and the paper opposed it before, during, and after.
And I thought it was important to have a voice in the paper up against John Pillier actually quite often who was obviously viscerally against the war, but I let Hitchens run riot.
Uh even though I thought he was completely wrong and even though I look back on it now and I’m convinced he was completely wrong.
So Hitchens wasn’t always right before you say to me what he said about Islamophobia, which you’re about to do.
Well, I mean, yes, I can make the point about what he said about Islamophobia, but the point that I was going to make is that Christopher Hitchens is, and I think you’ll probably agree with this, one of the most eloquent speakers that we would have ever seen, right? He has beautiful British accent.
He speaks with a beautiful vocabulary, as does Douglas Murray.
So, they may say things that are in terms of their content absolutely indistinguishable from anything that Tommy Robinson says.
But Tommy Robinson’s style, his accent is one that serves as an aesthetic injury to the people who carry the progressive lisp.
And therefore, people react to Tommy Robinson because of his style of delivery.
Uh Elon Musk whom is who as you know is a good friend of mine has a direct way of speaking that is not as eloquent as Christopher Hitchens.
that doesn’t in any way imply that what he is saying is not veritical.
So we have to differentiate between the substance and the content I’ve always said that actually about Donald Trump.
Same thing that the rhetoric often exactly often bears little relation to what he actually does.
I also think it’s important to focus on what people actually do.
You My problem with Elon who I think is a complete genius.
My problem over this week has been the way he’s targeted Jess Phillips, a female MP, in my view, wrongly and inaccurately, but that’s neither here nor there.
By calling her a genocidal rape apologist, he’s put a massive target on her head where people have now been arrested for threatening her life.
And we’ve had two members of parliament, including a young woman, who’ve been murdered in the last 10 years in this country.
I I just think that kind of language is crosses a line.
I mean, would you agree? Look, I I hear you.
I get that.
I’ve been accused of being the orchestrator of the killing of Gazin children.
I sit as a professor who’s 60 years old in Montreal doing evolutionary psychology research.
I have nothing to do with the killing of anyone in Gaza.
Yet, I am the baby genocidal killer.
So, of course, I I empathize with the point that you’re making.
And that’s why I said that sometimes Elon might be very blunt in the way he says what he says, but the content of what he’s saying, the eyeire that he has really is coming from a good place, right? Brit Britain does suffer from an orastic form of suicidal empathy, the topic of my forthcoming book, because they’re much more desirous of protecting the sensit sensibilities of their Muslim population than to worry about the integrity of the bodily in the integrity of children.
That’s not a good calculus to have.
I think that’s what triggered the eyeire of Elon.
The fact that he went after this person is regrettable.
I share your your concern there.
But again, I think the fact that you and I and others are having these important conversations, only good things can come from.
No, I completely agree and actually having Medi first, you now having Matthew here who has his views about it.
I mean, it’s interesting what you just said.
It’s not a million miles away from what Matthew said about the the woke ideology getting a grip of our of our country in a way that so many people in official felt incapable or too terrified to do the right thing because they were fearful of retribution and being accused of you know being anti-Muslim or whatever it may be.
And I completely get that.
That’s why you know I was interested in what you were saying to me uh and you said it on the Will Kane show.
I love Will and listen to that interview.
Um, it just slightly misinterpreted me.
I’m not I’m not saying that any criticism of Muslims or Islam is wrong or unacceptable by any means.
I think every group of people, whoever they are, I’m a Catholic.
The Catholic Church sex scandal, abuse abuse scandal was utterly horrific.
You know, it’s it’s just one of the most unspeakable things imaginable that people purporting to be priests were out there abusing children for decades.
And it is still going on, I’m sure.
Um, and I I as a Catholic feel totally ashamed about the total lack of accountability, the coverups that went on and the abuse.
So I feel exactly the same way about my own church as I do about what’s happened here with these uh British Pakistani Muslims towards predominantly British Pakistani Muslims towards young girls.
But this this I think you and I talked about this before, Gad, the woke ideology was definitely a contributing factor here.
People did not want to put their head over the parapit because they were terrified of getting shot.
Exa Exactly right.
Look, cultural relativism is a pathogenic idea that I discuss in the parasitic mind because it purports that who are we to judge the cultural practices, the religious practices of another culture.
So if another culture wants to cut off the clitorises of 5-year-old girls, who are you to judge, you cultural imperialist? No, I am here to judge.
There are absolutist deontological moral principles that any decent person should abide by.
Cutting off the clerices of little girls is never okay.
And so the you’re exactly right that the the coupling of these parasitic walk ideas with the reflex of suicidal empathy put them together you end up with a cocktail that leads us to the abyss of infinite lunacy.
Do you do you feel notwithstanding that the way that I feel which is I do think the Trump victory and the scale of it and Elon Musk’s contributing factor to that which was I think enormous uh by going allin with Trump I think he he had a very persuasive effect particularly on young men um but do you feel as I do that the woke worm is really turning hard that people are sick of it they’re sick of what they see as a modern form of fascism they are sick of what they see as as Musk calls it the woke mind virus and that it that the ad we were talking about earlier of Caramel is for they them Trump’s for you.
this whole personal proound pronoun the the gender ideology which was manifested so spectacularly badly with the trans women in women’s sport destroying the integrity of women’s sport and so on that it’s all on the retreat and the reason I think we we could say that with some authority now is the the incredible statement from Mark Zuckerberg which is six minutes long and is one of the most extraordinary U-turns I could ever remember a serious public figure like him coming out with where he basically has just thrown the towel in on this stuff.
Even down to saying that the fact Facebook fact checkers were the problem because they were coming at the factchecking from a sort of woke ideology point of view which is not fact-checking.
Um and so on but also saying from now on you will be allowed to have what have been deemed unacceptable views about gender about all these issues.
And I would say hurrah.
It doesn’t give you an excuse to be a vicious bigot, but it should give you the excuse, in fact, the right and the freedom to express yourself about these issues.
Yeah.
So, I do think that of course, thank God that Trump won.
He will serve as a doors stop against the woke insanity.
But I keep trying to remind people not to be complacent in the following sense.
Pierce.
It took about 50 to 100red years for many of these parasitic ideas to develop into the big woke monster that we eventually saw.
Right? So some of these ideas were spawned on university campuses close to 100 years ago.
For example, cultural relativism, postmodernism developed on university campuses, you know, 50, 60 years ago.
So these ideas have not been completely extinguished.
Yes, Donald Trump coming in, he’ll be able to clean house very quickly, but the battle will be much longer.
So, we can’t be complacent.
It hopefully it won’t take 50 to 100 years to eradicate all those bad ideas, but it doesn’t start and end with Trump.
It’s a good first step, but let’s keep fighting for truth.
Yeah.
Uh Gad, great to have you back on our senses.
Let’s not leave it so long next time.
Well, it really seems to me that guy like Pierce Morgan’s kind of all over the place.
I mean he’s got so many comments on so many things and when a person says one thing he counters with an opposite argument to bait you into some type debate but it’s great to see the great god saw doesn’t get debated and taken down very easily.
He’s a man of tremendous intelligence.
He’s written many books on marketing psychology the western mind in one of his later books is called the parasitic mind.
He deals with how uh liberal theology, liberal democracies, liberal ideas are trying to uh destroy the western mind through grievance, politics, through demanding uh being the oppressed all the time.
Uh seeing things in terms of class and social welfare as opposed to seeing things in terms of vi violence and values.
I mean, it’s just so important to see God talk about how much Islamic fundamental terror is in the world.
46,000 uh incidents since 9/11.
That’s that’s remarkable.
Within 20 20 24 years or so, close to 25 years coming up, uh 46,000 incidents of Islamic terror.
This is not some accident.
This is not one person making a mistake.
And of course, there’s bad people in the world.
There’s a lot of good people, a lot of good Muslims.
But it seems to be the majority, the vast majority of terror attacks in the world are being carried out by Islam today.
And I think God saw it as one of the few people that’s willing to uh risk his reputation, perhaps his life to talk about it.
And it makes sense.
He’s from Lebanon.
He saw the horrors of what happened in his society in the 1970s where the Muslims came into Lebanon and destroyed it.
They created a civil war.
Um there were more peaceful Muslims there.
The more Islamic fundamentals came in and destroyed and murdered Christians uh that fled.
Many of them are in their own diaspora around the world today.
But they understand what Islam does.
They understand what it did to one of the greatest cities in the world at the time which is Beirut.
Uh how they destroyed the city of Beirut and how today Lebanon has destroyed society.
I mean God saw it comes from that move to Canada to experience more freedom.
Now he’s seeing Islamic terrorists and Shri law spread around North America as well.
So we see the battle is truly not done yet and people really have to uh speak out with clarity and thank God we have people like like God sad who are really uh clarifying what’s happening in the world today.
He has got wonderful books.
I highly recommend them and I’d like to hear what you have to say about this.
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